Is this really what passes for a mayoral candidate these days? people ask, as we watch Wayne Brown, aged 76, describe in schoolboy snigger what he's going to have in his hand as he shows Simon Wilson what he thinks of him.
Is this really what passes for free to air TV these days? we ask, as we watch TVNZ hook their pipe up directly to the sewerage system for a fresh feed of reality TV.
At moments such as this we could use a little bit of cultural uplift, something to reassure us that we might be rolling around in the gutter but some of us are looking up at the stars. Even if those stars are just 20 dismal Fuckboys.